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John wall hasn’t played in nearly 2 years... what do you expect

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@Kevin Fernandez Means he’s a blood

@Chris what's funny?

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Why is he called that?

This isn’t aging well..

I smell Cap

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Yea right lol

@Joe Parmesan True! These owner don’t really care about winning. That’s why I respect Clippers & Warriors’s owner so much. Both went into luxury tax because they wanted Kawhi/KD and wanted to win rings badly.

The front office didn't want to pay him, and went for Ariza in a desperate attempt at a playoff berth. That seemed to be all Grunfeld ever cared about, which explains why he never surrounded Wall and Beal with actual talent to push the team further. Now Wall and his supermax contract are the scapegoat for why Washington got stuck, even though the moves made before the supermax kicked in (and before Wall even earned eligibility for the supermax) consisted of a series awful, short-sighted decisions.

@DeAndre Ward factual 💯💯

Didnt want to pay for him but also didnt want to lose him for nothing.. Shit dumb as hell mane my Wizards always been dumb as fuck

thanks my g!

@Mark Teague he hit a "jumper" to take them to the game 7 so clearly he wasn't lacking when it counted.

@Mark Teague that's not why there was a lack of playoff success. They only have one playoff victory without Wall playing at an All NBA level. Just one, and he missed the game with after recently busting his hand. One of the very few players that never got carried in a bad game. Washington lacked talent that could step up to the plate, because Grunfeld didn't give a shit to maximize the team. Look at the acquisitions from the 2016 offseason, because not one of them was productive in their time before leaving

@Mark Teague Overachieved* That Wizards team had no real depth.

@Joseph Satchell i still don’t think they were the best fit but that’s a fair point

@Mark Teague I think oubre talking about the media mostly they said they can’t play together this and that the media tried to split them up but at the end of the day they stocked together was a game away from the ecf but injuries from wall ended their tenure

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His defense underrated also

@PrinceWYA obsessed? I dunno man. I don’t live in Washington but we just heard wall was a little threatened by Beal and their chemistry wasn’t perfect especially early on. Just normal nba stuff. It wasn’t some massive witch hunt. And I don’t know if making the second round one time in 7 years “shut everybody up” or whatever Oubre is saying here. And then wall demanding a trade after they both did tons of interviews about being so exited to play together this year was sketchy. Especially cause he was probably gonna get traded whether or not he demanded the trade. I dunno. The reporting about them not being a perfect match was never that exaggerated and seemed to be proven mostly accurate.

@Tuan Turner chill it’s been pretty well established there was some friction between them early on especially on the court. They improved their chemistry and made the second round once but that didn’t shut everybody up. Nobody was really talking that much in the first place. Celtics were better than them it wasn’t a chemistry issue as the reason they lost that series and nobody was saying it was. But now Beal has a chance to veto a trade sending wall away and he doesn’t. Just seems like the reports of them not having perfect chemistry were true but they’re always talking like it was some massive witch hunt and the national media was obsessed with the storyline when it seems to most neutral people that the reporting was mostly true and they overreacted a ton to it.

@Derrick kennedy I dunno even wizards fans know they had some chemistry issues. Definitely on the court and maybe even off the court at the beginning also. It was never any major beef or anything but it’s prettt well established that that’s true. But Beal and wallnconstantly talk about how the media makes up huge lies about them and is involved in a conspiracy to turn them against eachother or something. When it seems to the neutral to be not that serious and just the media doing their job and reporting that things weren’t always 100 percent perfect between them.

@Joe Parmesan yeah they didn’t prove everybody wrong by making the second round one time. And the media was never as obsessed about driving them apart as they always claimed. And then Beal probably could have vetoed the wall trade because it was made to keep him happy and in dc but he didn’t. The media’s reporting that they had some chemistry issues seemed to be accurate and they just always talk as if it was some big conspiracy.

The chemistry issues between them were fine. Not A1 perfection, but not the issue that held the team back. The team lacked talent, and Grunfeld didn't bother to try hard enough to assemble a team. No good GM would pay an injured, 30+ year old Ian Mahinmi $64M to play backup Center. Good GMs don't do that. Good GMs receive praise when they win, but bad GMs dont receive nearly enough heat for failing to make winning moves.

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@Young Benji they took to down? Swear they had the whole interview up

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@Ricardo Duncan that doesn’t mean the doubters were proved wrong my guy

At least watch them play, they were cold and otw before 2 years of a John Wall injuries

@Lando whooptieee dooo 🤣🤣 I actually was one of the ppl tht rooted for the wizards to do well in the playoffs tht year . But lol in the grand scheme of things they haven’t proved anyone to be wrong

Exactly this was a nut ass statement from Kelly lol

@Tdot they ain’t even give that boi Beal an All/star nod🥴😹