David Fizdale & J.B. Bickerstaff Open Up About The Lack Of Black Coaches In The NBA | ALL THE SMOKE

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Former Knicks coach, David Fizdale and new Cavaliers coach, J.B. Bickerstaff talk with Matt and Stephen about the lack of black head coaches in the NBA and the need for more diversity. They guys also discuss ways to improve this.
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Shayan
Shayan پیش ماه
Earl Watson should be a coach right now
Chiko was here
Chiko was here پیش 2 ماه
Stephen A just shits on every white coach that gets hired over a black guy. But if he talked about it like this, then maybe some traction would be made. Instead he just sounds bitter and no one takes him seriously. Stephen A could actually help if he approached it like this, because then more fans would know what's going on.
Jacoby Chenevert
Jacoby Chenevert پیش 2 ماه
Lack of black owners
Alyas Linda
Alyas Linda پیش 2 ماه
Truth hurts black coaches are no good. I'm sorry..
thurmeez
thurmeez پیش 2 ماه
I see a quite a few people saying the players should do more. It's hard when most owners have that Donald Sterling mentality on the low.
Paul
Paul پیش 2 ماه
It's an Xs and Os league. Coach can be green or blue as long as he has a system that can compete for playoffs if not for the championship. Vogel - old school defense, Spo - zone and positionless ball, Kerr - high motion offense, Pop, Stevens, Snyder. Mostly even fans want to see a system coach rather than a "player's coach".
Threedkazee
Threedkazee پیش 2 ماه
You're concerned about color. That's the same thing racists are concerned about.
JersiiL0v3
JersiiL0v3 پیش 2 ماه
Mmmm Matt Barnes saying the same shit Stephen A. said 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
Palah Salah
Palah Salah پیش 2 ماه
Bring back Mark Jackson
Nana Karlson
Nana Karlson پیش 2 ماه
Matt stfu u ain't black
Chill Introvert
Chill Introvert پیش 2 ماه
I can understand the frustration but to play Devil's Advocate a bit, how many Black coaches actually perform once they get these jobs? I'm all for coaching diversity and giving others a chance but you have to show some level of success when you get the job. I like Fizdale but he hasn't looked good at any of his coaching spots. Ty Lue, I have questions about. Doc does have a ring but he's also somewhat disappointed since said ring. He's become synonymous with favoring his vets/guys even when there are better players on the team, and blowing playoff series leads. Now to be fair, I do think there is something wrong with the optics as far as black coaches getting a shot with a bad team, helping lead them up to snuff, and then a white coach coming in Superman with a cape and them getting exorbitant praise for their efforts (Casey/Nurse, Jackson/Kerr, Kidd/Bud, etc.) Or even worse, Black coaches being brought on as assistants on staff and being perpetually stuck there as "black whisperers" to relate to/reign in black players because the coaches and organizations cannot relate to or understand them as people. And please stop the myth that black coaches don't like or understand analytics. I know black assistants and coaches at all levels and there are plenty that utilize, appreciate, and understand them. The "simple" black coach that's all about motivation and being a player's coach myth needs to stop, it's archaic and insulting.
Gerwin Eric
Gerwin Eric پیش 2 ماه
@icecee2000247 @icecee2000247 I get what you are saying, but he has continually to come up short in key series. Given the teams that he has had over the years, he should have won more than a single ring. That Lob City Clippers should have won atleast a single chip, and that Clippers team who just lost that 3-1 lead at the bubble is such a bad look. Personally, I think he's a great coach but he is so overrated. Just like how George Karl is in the top in all time coaching wins, but hasn't won anything of great value with his teams.
icecee2000247
icecee2000247 پیش 2 ماه
Doc Rivers got a coach of the year his first season coaching, a ring, led the Clippers to 48 wins without Kawhi and PG13, and is top 10 all time in wins. The idea that he's been disappointing with one of the top 10 coaching resumes ever is absurd.
Gerwin Eric
Gerwin Eric پیش 2 ماه
Hey, I understand your point but it's skewed. Yeah sure, black coaches sometimes underperform and all that but it shouldn't be like that. It's not that some black coaches doesn't do their jobs well, but it's just that some coaches are just not that good regardless of color and ethnicity. You feel me? Yes, there have been bad black coaches like Isiah Thomas and recently, Derek Fisher but it also goes the same way on the other side with guys like Rick Pitino and recently with John Beilein before J.B. took the job. Race shouldn't be looked at as a criteria on how a coach will perform at his job. Some coaches are great and some are horrible regardless of race. That way of thinking somehow dips into white supremacy stuff. Just like how the guys said that white coaches tend to look at like they're geniuses when they perform well while black coaches doesn't get the same love most of the time. Doc Rivers is probably the opposite as he tends to be overrated as he has fallen short many times but is still held at a high regard but so did Luke Walton when he stepped in for Warriors in the majority of the 73-9 season. He was looked at as a coaching genius then and look at him since. He hasn't even had an over 50% season as a head coach even with LeBron in his team. I hope you got my point that mediocrity shouldn't be attached to a certain race in a head coaching search or at any job really. All human beings have the same odds to be horrible at a job regardless of race especially if they are expected to be instant saviors in situations that are set to make them fail.
Rob Smith
Rob Smith پیش 2 ماه
If you want more black coaches then black players gotta do more “networking” with the higher management. SIMPLE. Create a relationship with them!
Jagged Jay Jr
Jagged Jay Jr پیش ماه
@Justin Wilson ctfu 😂😂😂‼️ Water , Working out early , and a JOB .. always these 9-5 mindset workers with nothing better to do 😂😂😂
Jagged Jay Jr
Jagged Jay Jr پیش ماه
@Justin Wilson triggered 😂😂😂 okay live life man you must not have a good one . I recommend drinking a lot of water , working out early to start you’re day , and the best one for you A JOB ‼️
Jagged Jay Jr
Jagged Jay Jr پیش ماه
@Justin Wilson dumbest take I’ve heard in my life you respond to a comment 3 weeks ago 😂😂😂 you typed that and did not think I could be doing something better with my life ???
Jagged Jay Jr
Jagged Jay Jr پیش 2 ماه
@Rob Smith mike D should have been fired from the rockets years ago ... just like Brett B . From the sixers ... I’m pretty sure black people have relationships but just like said in the video these owners don’t look at it the same way neither do the Gms
Rob Smith
Rob Smith پیش 2 ماه
@Jagged Jay Jr Mike D got hired by Steve Nash.... again they were very good friends!!!.... relationships matter! networking matters!
luv Bunny:D
luv Bunny:D پیش 2 ماه
Let’s make a movement to have more white players in the NBA, how would that go down?
Hi It's me
Hi It's me پیش 2 ماه
There’s white players in the nba on every team lmao 😂
Jonas Hammar
Jonas Hammar پیش 2 ماه
victimhood victimhood victimhood
Cletus Spuckler
Cletus Spuckler پیش 2 ماه
Houston is not open. When did you record this?
SWiFT PEMDAS
SWiFT PEMDAS پیش 2 ماه
Get dangello russell on the podcast
Sasa Z
Sasa Z پیش 2 ماه
One thing would be if the NBA organizations deliberately don't want to hire black coaches, but this isn't the case. These people here are advocating deliberately discriminating white coaches so the black coaches get more opportunities.
King iBeezey
King iBeezey پیش 2 ماه
Let’s talk about the lack of Asian and middle eastern coaches.. black people swear only black and White people exist.
Anthony Norman
Anthony Norman پیش 2 ماه
This video has summoned some interesting takes from some angry people. All I gotta say is that it's interesting how many people don't care that the leadership isn't representative of the people that they lead.
Anthony Norman
Anthony Norman پیش 2 ماه
@S Wavey it doesn't. People can and do vote against their own interest. more people voted in this election than ever before and the population is higher than ever before. The logical conclusion is that whoever won the popular vote was going to beat Obama's record.
Anthony Norman
Anthony Norman پیش 2 ماه
@S Wavey more black people voting for someone doesn't show that the individual benefitted the people who voted for him. You don't believe that the Democrat won the popular vote despite them winning almost all popular votes in the last 30 years? What would cause the trend to change? Trump didn't.
Anthony Norman
Anthony Norman پیش 2 ماه
@S Wavey we don't know CP3's actual coaching level. My point was that special cases don't address systemic issues.
Jagged Jay Jr
Jagged Jay Jr پیش 2 ماه
@S Wavey he did nothing and that’s why he lost
Anthony Norman
Anthony Norman پیش 2 ماه
@S Wavey if he wants to coach he'll probably get a job instantly , but that doesn't reflect upon the rest of the league
Victor Archie
Victor Archie پیش 2 ماه
I guess they want to make this league a all black league.
Ranier Nadres
Ranier Nadres پیش 2 ماه
Doc rivers went to the clippers with CP3 and Blake Griffin and DJ, Doc Rivers got KG,Ray Allen and the truth. Just keep doing what your doing the balance of ethnicities will work out on its own the right way. Steve Nash is white but he’s the right coach. Jason Kidd will be next, but once again the right coach. I’m not worried at all this is just another pillar to keep the bridge going.
Ranier Nadres
Ranier Nadres پیش 2 ماه
@Cathal Murphy I hav no idea but if so thats even better either way basketball should be simple not political
Cathal Murphy
Cathal Murphy پیش 2 ماه
Isnt Jason Kidd biracial
Benn255 B
Benn255 B پیش 2 ماه
Ok what about the lack of Asian, Hispanic and European coaches, hell what about females coaches in the league? I hate this narrative so much, because it's has nothing to do with the game and literally just a negative distraction, especially with everything going on in 2020 already.
Anthony Norman
Anthony Norman پیش 2 ماه
Asian and Hispanic and european players haven't made up a majority of the league for decades. It's something to think about when the leadership doesn't represent the people below them.
HIP HOP HUB TV
HIP HOP HUB TV پیش 2 ماه
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SawamiJude
SawamiJude پیش 2 ماه
For there to be more black coaches, black coaches need to be given more of an opportunity at the college level.
Jagged Jay Jr
Jagged Jay Jr پیش 2 ماه
@Jay Theboss CURRENT my guy and you named 4 ... many more is not a answer... yeah I thought so continue to go on google
Jagged Jay Jr
Jagged Jay Jr پیش 2 ماه
@Jay Theboss you really named Doc Rivers must be a genius guarantee that’s the only one you know
Jagged Jay Jr
Jagged Jay Jr پیش 2 ماه
@Jay Theboss PLENTY‼️‼️‼️ please name more than 15 black college coaches in the NBA and Division 1 level
Desi Flacco
Desi Flacco پیش 2 ماه
Wypipo: we don’t care for your input .. this ain’t for you
MUFC
MUFC پیش 2 ماه
97652 Soccer is the biggest and most important sport on Planet Earth. Soccer is the WORLD GAME and is massive in over 240 countries. Every nation on Earth loves Soccer. Basketball is only big in less than 40 countries. Soccer is more popular than basketball in every country except the Philippines, Lithuania and US. I tell you this my brothers soccer will be the number 1 sport in the United States of America by the year 2070 A.D. Soccer will be the most popular sport in every country on earth by 2100 A.D ljgds
Mike Love Thyself
Mike Love Thyself پیش 2 ماه
All these dudes at this table deserve a spot on someone’s coaching staff. But the reality is you’re not always going to make the cut there will always be biases wether in or not your favor.
Hulkxilla
Hulkxilla پیش 2 ماه
They should interview Deloitte West when he shake back.
Daniel Tayong
Daniel Tayong پیش 2 ماه
Players need to advocate for this happen. If they don’t, then it won’t happen.
Digital Gravity
Digital Gravity پیش 2 ماه
Bruh and now this is an issue? I swear they make everything an issue even if it’s not. Lack of black coaches? Bruh it’s lacking because of coaching skills so you can’t do anything about it. This is an issue when 81% of players in the NBA are black. Swear they’re using the situation we’re in to make that an issue smh.
Dominic Erueti
Dominic Erueti پیش 2 ماه
Its been an issue for decades bruh, welcome too the future🤣🤣🤣
Anthony Norman
Anthony Norman پیش 2 ماه
If 81% are black then black people have the most basketball experience. Yet those people aren't in leadership positions. That doesn't seem off?
Brian Badonde
Brian Badonde پیش 2 ماه
This is getting pathetic now, black people feeling sorry for themselves
Matt The Knicks Fan
Matt The Knicks Fan پیش 2 ماه
6:00 🗣🗣🗣
Adrian Chambliss
Adrian Chambliss پیش 2 ماه
I love Pat Riley for making that call
Ronshai Jones
Ronshai Jones پیش 2 ماه
@MUFC no it won't
MUFC
MUFC پیش 2 ماه
66421 Soccer is the biggest and most important sport on Planet Earth. Soccer is the WORLD GAME and is massive in over 240 countries. Every nation on Earth loves Soccer. Basketball is only big in less than 40 countries. Soccer is more popular than basketball in every country except the Philippines, Lithuania and US. I tell you this my brothers soccer will be the number 1 sport in the United States of America by the year 2070 A.D. Soccer will be the most popular sport in every country on earth by 2100 A.D dtfnb
David MacDonald
David MacDonald پیش 2 ماه
They should cry more.
Mike Love Thyself
Mike Love Thyself پیش 2 ماه
😂
Blake Richards
Blake Richards پیش 2 ماه
Is Erick Spolestra white then?
LionsTigersBearsOhMy Animals
LionsTigersBearsOhMy Animals پیش 2 ماه
Stephan lying if he’s got a contract for 50 mil for five years he’s playing. You can tell me how you feel but don’t say something we know as audience wouldn’t really be true. You left the spurs for money not for winning. The truth is money speaks harder than anything.
LionsTigersBearsOhMy Animals
LionsTigersBearsOhMy Animals پیش 2 ماه
Why don’t they boycott?
Nonne B
Nonne B پیش 2 ماه
There has to be more white players/asian players first. It is so unfair.
Todd G
Todd G پیش 2 ماه
This is very informative. It's not something I necessarily realized as a white man and a fan of this league.
Anthony Norman
Anthony Norman پیش 2 ماه
@Science Basketball apparently the owners care. Also, how does anyone know how good the coaches are if they're never given a chance?
Ron Bass
Ron Bass پیش 2 ماه
@Science Basketball obviously you do sir, ending your argument with a race question. 😒 People like you are who they are talking about and it itches huh lol
Todd G
Todd G پیش 2 ماه
@Science Basketball I found it informative. No need to be so angry about it. Jeez.
Sean Pyne
Sean Pyne پیش 2 ماه
Obama for the bulls coach
RD
RD پیش 2 ماه
I'm calling it now. There will be a major push for women head coaches in the next 5 to 10 years.
Benn255 B
Benn255 B پیش 2 ماه
@Jay Theboss then you should definitely be 100% more clear about what you say! Can't come into this conversation and just generaliz every single problem and sum it into a couple poorly written sentences and expect people to know what you're saying. Also the Chinese and today the Hispanic help a lot building this country but yeah keep looking in literally black n white. Wtf!?! I'm a leftist fem because I think (unlike you) black women and women in general should also have opportunities same as a man in certain NBA positions? Lol how can you write that and really not understand how dumb you sound? You're are pulling false opinions out of your jackass, and acting like it's based on facts. Plus the fact your brung politics into a convo about NBA coaches let's me know more about you then if I met you in person. I hope you don't have kids and didn't vote because we don't need more people like you in this world.
Benn255 B
Benn255 B پیش 2 ماه
@Jay Theboss because potentially being the first female coach in the NBA is way more amazing then some other GM job. But you already said how you feel about women in general so I shouldn't be surprised by your response.
Benn255 B
Benn255 B پیش 2 ماه
@Jay Theboss how is a a few more black coaching jobs in the NBA gonna change the whole country and economy?? Please explain... 😂 You sound so stupid, so it's ok to put down black women but not black men? Because from what you wrote you kinda contradicted yourself. Exactly the "most qualified persons would EaSiLy gEt ThE jOb" and not because of their skin color, or is that not what you're saying?? SMDH! What about Asians, Hispanics or Europeans not having coaching jobs? Wait that's right... it's because black people get shafted and treated so poorly in the NBA right 🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤣
Benn255 B
Benn255 B پیش 2 ماه
@Science Basketball lol so it's ok to bring not enough blacked coaches but no putting down women? How we gonna squish racism when we can't even respect the other sex... no wonder why every country hates us.
SuperPunch76
SuperPunch76 پیش 2 ماه
There’s already a push. Becky Hammon is being groomed to be the first female coach in the NBA. Most likely once Pop resigns.
Big Coochie
Big Coochie پیش 2 ماه
Still we rise
Kwame Creswell
Kwame Creswell پیش 2 ماه
I knew the term "Player's Coach" wasn't shit at all
Keffi daDon
Keffi daDon پیش 2 ماه
Brothers should put their money together and buy a team🤔
Cathal Murphy
Cathal Murphy پیش 2 ماه
I doubt it's possible, the jazz just sold for 1.6 billion, when MJ bought the Hornets the were worth about 200 million
Nonne B
Nonne B پیش 2 ماه
Like MJ?
john coleman
john coleman پیش 2 ماه
Where is Lebron’s comment or efforts to address this issue🤷🏾‍♂️ again☝️ he has nothing to say about this injustice 😳
Bobby Tatum
Bobby Tatum پیش 2 ماه
How you think Ty Lue got his first coaching job?
john coleman
john coleman پیش 2 ماه
Great conversation guys, y’all gotta also hire our own when y’all get in power..black privilege ⭐️❤️💗💪🏾🙏🏾
Jonathan Hall
Jonathan Hall پیش 2 ماه
All these dudes are half white. lol
Waves On Swim
Waves On Swim پیش 2 ماه
When u got any blk in u, you’re blk to the world
JJKILLABX
JJKILLABX پیش 2 ماه
@Omari Mitchell cuz they lightskin
Omari Mitchell
Omari Mitchell پیش 2 ماه
Read a history book
SouthFloridaLove
SouthFloridaLove پیش 2 ماه
👀 No
BobbyGenesis
BobbyGenesis پیش 2 ماه
Man they got to stop pushing this narrative. It’s a job that goes to the best available person. Why aren’t there any Asian head coaches? Why aren’t there more white nba players? Also fizdale has no place to talk he was a disaster
BobbyGenesis
BobbyGenesis پیش 2 ماه
You guys keep proving this point by pointing out Spo is Asian. Since there is 1 Asian head coach then it’s all good? By that account the league is fine since there is 6 black head coaches
The Real Profess
The Real Profess پیش 2 ماه
Did you not watch the finals? The coach for the Heat is Asian. These guys worked in the League unlike yourself. How are they pushing the narrative?
BobbyGenesis
BobbyGenesis پیش 2 ماه
All this does is further push a separation between the races. The nba does more to fight against racism then any other sport. Get mad all you want but based on previous experience at being head coaches, which I understand is the issue to begin with, there a more qualified NBA level white coaches
Anthony Hancock
Anthony Hancock پیش 2 ماه
Not a narrative, more like the reality of what it is. And it goes to the best available person?? Lol if you truly believe that then you either have a hard time understanding or don’t want to. They clearly give you a perspective in this conversation and you still can’t comprehend
Sean McCoy
Sean McCoy پیش 2 ماه
You forget Erik Spoelstra is Philipino so yeah.
Jeffrey Zheng
Jeffrey Zheng پیش 2 ماه
CUZ THEY NOT GOOD enough. Wat don’t y’all get. It’s a job. U can’t just hire someone cuz there’s lack of black coaches in the league. Tell me how it makes sense
BizzlyyTv
BizzlyyTv پیش 2 ماه
@Elton Francis i didn't say give noone anything buts its alot of coaching who had good teams and couldn't do nothing with dem get fired n hired the next week mark Jackson brung Golden st back to relevant , david fizdale had a nice run with Memphis n got a horrible knicks team den fired ,
Benn255 B
Benn255 B پیش 2 ماه
@Isaac Blake lol new coaches take the job good or bad, especially first timers. Not everyone falls into a once in a generation team like Kerr with GS, stop acting like every black coach get a crappy team. Only coaches that been deep into the playoffs get picked, only reason Nash was picked was because KD and Kyrie wanted him and openly said they did. Nobody saying anything about lack of Asian, Hispanic and European as coaching, or is it only black people who get the short end of the stick in the NBA??? Literally making a big deal for no reason, stick to innocence dying on the streets and noy what color that guy is who writes X's an O's smh.
Normajean Eason
Normajean Eason پیش 2 ماه
@Isaac Blake MJ is my GOAT but he needed Scottie.
Isaac Blake
Isaac Blake پیش 2 ماه
@BizzlyyTv facts even players need to be in good situations to develop right.
BizzlyyTv
BizzlyyTv پیش 2 ماه
Hlw can you show you good enough wen you given a horrible team and don't get enough time to develop the team
zipdrive
zipdrive پیش 2 ماه
What about lack of white players in NBA that are saw as not athletic enough and bad potential. Thats racism too that no one talk about ! What about that Montrezz saying white boy to Luka and nothing happend what about that !
jack johnson
jack johnson پیش ماه
@Justin Wilson PS I love Luka and cheer for him unless he’s playing Lebron Dame or Pelicans Charlotte maybe even Pistons now (I like the Ball families story)...maybe stating that will clear things up
jack johnson
jack johnson پیش ماه
@Justin Wilson read again buddy, no issue at all...I even catch you angle on that
A D
A D پیش 2 ماه
@Spicy Noodles "I'm part Black"😂
SamRibz
SamRibz پیش 2 ماه
I know you didn’t just say “white boy” is the same as the N word.... most ignorant thing you could possibly say. Literally every white player has come forward saying they’ve been called that their entire hoop career and it doesn’t bother them one bit. Now imagine replacing that with the N word and you wanna say it’s the same? Just plain stupid. Stop being so emotional and trying to take away from the VALID ARGUMENT that there is a lack of diversity in head coaches in the NBA.
gabriel perez
gabriel perez پیش 2 ماه
Cut it out, there is no such thing as reverse racism, y’all reaching so hard for a “gotcha” moment
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